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Amethyst Period Stirs Up Saimoe League

Halfway through the Amethyst Period (3 of 7 total), the International Saimoe League has run into some interesting developments. Four matches from the Aquamarine period had to be replayed, several matches between top-ranked contenders (including three #1 vs #2 battles in a row) occurred, and the tournament itself had to shift to a Monday-Wednesday-Friday schedule. Not to worry, though, as the voting part itself is still smooth and easy. More details ahead…


For the amethyst period, the most recent standings show Ichinose Kotomi, Katsura Hinagiku, Hiiragi Kagami, and Saber among the 13 with 4-0 records so far (9 matches total per contestant in the period). It’s still far too early to call who will win the Amethyst Necklace. I’m personally glad to see contenders who didn’t fare as well in the other periods. The thing about a round-robin tournament is that the ups and downs are spread throughout the entire season.

As far as total cumulative standings, Sakagami Tomoyo sits at the top with Nagato Yuki, Fujibayashi Kyou, Fate Testarossa, and several others trailing close behind. Because the whole tournament is just barely one third complete, it’s not too late for contestants in the lower rankings to make it into the top 16 by the season’s end (and the postseason will start).

However, some parts of the community are feeling a bit of despair, concerned that the standings won’t change much in the next few weeks. Personally I think people are getting a little ahead of themselves, but my opinion may be a little biased now since I have become part of tournament staff (as a data analyst). What’s true, though, is that there are plenty of matches left; numbers should even out. But that doesn’t stop the “political” side of things, in a way.

The discussion is fleshed out more on the most recent pages of the AnimeSuki thread. While a round-robin tournament is the most fair, it’s time consuming. Voters have come and gone, and with the other Saimoe tournaments close to starting again, this first-year tournament is unfortunately getting shifted down the priority list. It’s because characters in ISML need consistent campaigning throughout the tournament while Saimoe Japan for example allows for long breaks between a particular character’s matches. Fans can concentrate on different arenas as time passes. Winners gain a lot of momentum while those ‘on the bubble’ still have plenty of time to garner support.

Moe is serious business, I know. But you can’t help the few that don’t feel like their efforts aren’t having a significant impact on the overall results anymore. The numbers disagree since important overtime matches have occurred last week, and many other matches were won by margins of 10 votes or less. It seems that tournaments like these need constant optimism and hope. I can mathematically explain all day that things will even out by late July or so, but it’s hard for the normal voter to envision that from here when it seems like KyoAni characters are dominating and girls from other series just can’t keep up. The dilemma then is whether or not some fairness should be sacrificed for suspense and uncertainty. And all I’d mean is reschedule matches or break the League into smaller Groups or Pods of sorts. There’s a lot to consider for next year, and all the input that voters and bypassers give is great. After all, this should be the first time a round-robin tournament (especially one of this magnitude) was ever executed. So it’s a learning process for everyone, and the staff will have a very important data point to use when 2009 rolls around.

…Well that’s enough rambling by me. If you aren’t already in the habit, go vote! Amethyst 5 is close to ending, with Amethyst 6 starting immediately after. Read the main page for the administrator’s epic space-opera writeups of the character battles and check the Photobucket account for results from previous rounds.

The tournament staff is always looking to grow with more translators. Plus if you have ideas as to how to improve the nomination process (or the scheduling and execution process even), drop by the AnimeSuki thread and share your opinion! Please help spread word of the tournament, too, as I believe a wide voter-base is definitely necessary to instill some everlasting suspense in these battles.

You gotta love the graphics people come up with for this tournament, too.

~Crisu

On a vaguely-related note, Lolitron’s loli battle is in its Elite Eight period. Over the next week we’ll find out who out of 64 vintage lolis is the absolute best.


5 Responses to “Amethyst Period Stirs Up Saimoe League”


  1. May 23, 2008 at 5:23 am

    Two things you guys might want to consider for next year are ideas taken from the MLB/NFL and the NCAA. One is a bye system. Allow for the top 24 to enter the tourney and the top 8 receive a first-round bye. This way the top seeds get rewarded for a strong regular season and more +.500win girls can get into the tourney.

    The second idea is to have an automatic bid system like the NCAA basketball tourney. One way to do this (which I think would be really interesting) is to give automatic entry to winners of stones. This will reward girls for successful runs and give the stones a bit more meaning. Plus, I think fans will be more motivated to vote if given 7 chances to vote a girl into an automatic bid spot since coordinating to win a stone is much easier to do than to coordinate all season for an at-large spot.

    I’d be more interested to see a saimoe season/tourney with a combination of the two ideas above.

  2. May 23, 2008 at 6:01 am

    Thanks for the comment. ^_^

    As it is right now, the top 16 get automatic entry into next year’s contest. Byes don’t really work in a round-robin setting where everybody faces everybody, but it’s a good idea to save on time a bit. In the entry I mentioned breaking the League of 64 into possibly eight Groups of 8 or four Groups of 16. That would greatly reduce the number of matches while still having a round-robin setup. And we could give awards to Group winners .. and then apply byes if we go into a double-elimination from that right away.

    The idea of giving Necklace winners automatic bids has been discussed. You’re right; it’s not a bad idea to give more chances for some success, even if they have lower records.

    The tournament admin does want to the number of automatic bids and nomination slots balanced, too. Not too much of either, but more along the lines of 2/3 automatic and 1/3 nomination.

    None of it is my call to make, but I can pass the suggestions forward. This really is a special tournament in its particular format, and I hope it does improve over the years.

  3. May 23, 2008 at 11:47 am

    I forgot that it’s a round robin system in the post-season. Yeah, byes won’t work too well with that.

    As for auto-bids, that shouldn’t really be too far above 50% since it could potentially destroy alot of girls on the bubble. The NCAA mens bball tournament has it at about 45% auto-bids. I think if the 7 necklaces give auto-bids to the current 16 entry field, that would work quite well.

    My biggest concern is the small post-season field. With top 16 of 64, there’s the possibility of a few girls getting a 40+ win regular season (63.5% or better) and be on the outside looking in. In any American sporting event, a 62.5% regular season and not making it into the post season is both rare and insane.I don’t want the post season field to be more than half. Just somewhere in between to allow for some better post-season balance.

  4. May 23, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    No, the regular season is round-robin. Postseason is double-elimination with the Top 16, and that will be exciting enough not to need byes.

    While there are plenty of sports-related examples for tournament organization, we can’t follow them too strictly, because moe voting is hardly a sport or involves sport. As much as we talk about the girls “competing” against each other, it’s really the viewing audience who decides the winner. As this post from AnimeSuki says, moe tournaments are more like government elections in that the contests have more to do with campaigning/scheming rather than actual sportsmanship.

    You call a 62.5% regular season without a playoff berth insane, but that can’t be applied to a saimoe tournament as easily when new characters appear each year while others’ popularity can change on a whim depending on the media. The cutoffs have to be a bit more strict.

  5. May 23, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    Hey Crisu, can you forward Koneko’s e-mail to me? I’ll answer personally.


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